Rolling Release vs. Fixed Release

[agentl074]

I would just recommend using the zero LTS release when it comes since it will keep you on the LTS kernel; whereas, if you install a point release of LTS, it will install the HWE kernel and keep you on that until the next LTS kernel.

You can install the LTS kernel (sudo apt install linux-image-generic), grub into that via pressing ctrl+alt+delete after splash screen, and then use sudo apt autoremove to remove the HWE kernel.

[TenPlus1]

I tend to run a mock rolling release bu updating sources.list when the new repo's for the next release is available and doing careful updates to make sure my system doesn't break, and so far so good.

Also Rolling Rhino is a good Ubuntu distro that does a good job of this as well: https://rhinolinux.org/

[1fallen]

I tend to run a mock rolling release bu updating sources.list when the new repo's for the next release is available and doing careful updates to make sure my system doesn't break, and so far so good.

Also Rolling Rhino is a good Ubuntu distro that does a good job of this as well: https://rhinolinux.org/

+1
Well it looks like I got my wish a Rolling Model of Ubuntu.

They released it on DW (Distro Watch) on 12/20/2023.
There was a change in the default DE instead of Gnome they went with XFCE another plus for me.
It has the Global Menu Top panel and Rhino features a custom meta package manager which unifies Deb, Pacstall and Flatpak software management. (it dose have an option for snaps as well but not here on mine)

Home Page: https://rhinolinux.org/
FTR, I won't encourage anyone to use it as production system. (But I will)

So far I'm very impressed with how Adaptive to any workflow I throw at it.

Note there is a very slight learning curve to it, though most here will sail along just fine.
naming they went with Rhino Linux which I prefer over Rolling Rhino.

inxi -Fxxz
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[Dennis N]

My experience with Rhino (yours may vary)

I installed it in a VM, which completed. Then I completed the setup. After that, right-clicked on the Desktop hoping to find some different wallpaper, and the OS locked up and was unresponsive. Screenshot below taken from host OS. I had to force shut down. Not encouraging. Back to real Ubuntu.

Edit: Started it up again, and this time the OS did not lock up doing the same thing.

[1fallen]

Yep it runs a ton better on real installs. I also found it very buggy in any VM's or KVM.
I was asked to give it another go and it is *perfect so far* I t won't be for everyone, and needs to mature a bit more, released 12/20/2023
I just have this kind of mind set, made for me.

[Dennis N]

Well, so far so good. But I see no guidance on how to find and install new software besides what the Application Grid shows. In the grid, I see no GUI software manager that a new user would expect to see. Also, there is no application menu with applications by category that I can find.

[1fallen]

It's a different XFCE experience for sure lol
on the left dock (Plank) is a grid for a Gnome like menu, and above that there is a search Icon for Apps installed.
At least your trying it.
BTW You can add the Whisker Menu to the Top Panel.

[Dennis N]

There was an article about Rhino back in May 2022. So it's been out awhile.

[1fallen]

But it stopped for a bit, then they went full tilt on working with it again. (New folks working on it)
Most of that information in the link is outdated now.....progress is fast on this one.
I also posted on it here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2481166

[Dennis N]

Well, I wish the developers all the best on their work. It isn't going to be easy. I agree with what you said in the other thread:

New users will find it very confusing. Out of ten New to Linux and Ubuntu 8 of them threw in the towel.
6 out 6 old timers found it useful.

I do like the rolling release concept. I've had Manjaro in my stable of OSes since 2017.